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  • #61
    Originally posted by Accolade Racing View Post
    Gordon drove a Ford.
    Gordon actually drove 2 Fords....1991 Carolina Ford Dealers Ford & The 1992 Baby Ruth, plus a Pontiac in 1990 (OutBack Steakhouse) & even an Oldmobile in 1991(Penrose Snacks)

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Accolade Racing View Post
      Gordon drove a Ford.
      Well that does not really count just like Tony driving a Crapota LOL Besides I was not a fan when he drove a ford.


      #24EVER #HateThe18 #Hatetoyota #BiggumsIsDelusional

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      • #63
        Originally posted by DonCarp View Post
        Well that does not really count just like Tony driving a Crapota LOL Besides I was not a fan when he drove a ford.
        Ummmmmm, yeah it does count. Part of his driving history,lol.
        20170902_143041 by Michael Ellison, on Flickr

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ghosthonor View Post
          Ummmmmm, yeah it does count. Part of his driving history,lol.
          Yea sure okay whatever lol When I became a Gordon fan he was in a Chevy that's all that counts.


          #24EVER #HateThe18 #Hatetoyota #BiggumsIsDelusional

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          • #65
            Originally posted by DonCarp View Post
            Yea sure okay whatever lol When I became a Gordon fan he was in a Chevy that's all that counts.
            A driver is known from there past not there present

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            • #66
              Originally posted by DonCarp View Post
              Yea sure okay whatever lol When I became a Gordon fan he was in a Chevy that's all that counts.
              It was pivotal time in his career. Because Jack Roush wanted him,but Hendrick Gave him the chance.
              20170902_143041 by Michael Ellison, on Flickr

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              • #67
                Earnhardt drove Fords and are part of his driving history, same with Gordon, take off the rose colored glasses
                God and Guns

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Texas3 View Post
                  Earnhardt drove Fords and are part of his driving history, same with Gordon, take off the rose colored glasses
                  That is #FakeNews

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                  • #69
                    Gordon was with Bill Davis Racing, but Bill Davis was having problems securing sponsorship for Gordon' to move to cup in 1993... Hendrick had sponsorship with Dupont ready to go Cup Racing, so Gordon took the sure thing & signed on to drive a shiny new Chevrolet Lumina...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                      Gordon was with Bill Davis Racing, but Bill Davis was having problems securing sponsorship for Gordon' to move to cup in 1993... Hendrick had sponsorship with Dupont ready to go Cup Racing, so Gordon took the sure thing & signed on to drive a shiny new Chevrolet Lumina...
                      That's not entirely true.

                      Bill Davis racing had Target as a sponsor and everything else already lined up for Jeff to go Winston Cup racing in 1993. Jeff secretly made a deal behind everyone's back (his team, his sponsors, FORD) with Rick, who at that time didn't have anything in place for his new team. Dupont as a sponsor could only be secured several weeks after Rick had signed and announced Jeff as his new driver.
                      It was a pretty big deal back then and produced lots of negative publicity for Jeff as it was viewed (rightfully so) as a really bad betrayal by Jeff to the ones that helped him get to and make it in the Busch Grand National Series.

                      The Target deal fell through for BDR, when Jeff had to tell Bill, that he had signed elsewhere.

                      Honestly a really bad way to start your Winston Cup career, but as we know now it worked out pretty well for Jeff and Rick, not so much for Bill, who still to this day, I believe, hasn't forgiven Jeff.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Seba View Post
                        That's not entirely true.

                        Bill Davis racing had Target as a sponsor and everything else already lined up for Jeff to go Winston Cup racing in 1993. Jeff secretly made a deal behind everyone's back (his team, his sponsors, FORD) with Rick, who at that time didn't have anything in place for his new team. Dupont as a sponsor could only be secured several weeks after Rick had signed and announced Jeff as his new driver.
                        It was a pretty big deal back then and produced lots of negative publicity for Jeff as it was viewed (rightfully so) as a really bad betrayal by Jeff to the ones that helped him get to and make it in the Busch Grand National Series.

                        The Target deal fell through for BDR, when Jeff had to tell Bill, that he had signed elsewhere.

                        Honestly a really bad way to start your Winston Cup career, but as we know now it worked out pretty well for Jeff and Rick, not so much for Bill, who still to this day, I believe, hasn't forgiven Jeff.
                        thank you for the insight..I can see how this could put a blemish on his record for some..shocks me to learn this about Jeff..

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                        • #72
                          Thanks for jogging my memory...lol. You are absolutely right, the Target deal was lined up & about to be finalized..but then again, at that time Bill didn't have Jeff under contract for 1993 & neither did Ford... Bill just assumed Jeff was going to stay on, but one day before the big meeting with Target, Gordon signed with Hendrick. That was in May & you're right again...DuPont wasn't signed until a few weeks later in June. One of Jeffs biggest stipulations was that his crew chief (Ray Evernham) on the Baby Ruth car move with him to cup. Jack Roush who also wanted Jeff flat out refused to bring Ray onboard, but Hendrick was good with that plan. I think it's a really a long story as to why Jeff went behind Bills back.. Andy Graves who met Jeff back in his midget days was his roommate & best friend(and he had gotten a job at Hendrick as a tire specialist)had a big influence on Jeffs decision, plus Ray Evernham went to Hendrick to check out the shop & fell in love when he saw the resources available.. He then goes back to Jeff & basically tells him you're a fool if you don't sign up.
                          Yes, Jeff should have been honest with Bill about his plans, especially before they met with Target. It wasn't until after that meeting that Jeff told Bill in the elevator ride down that he had signed with Hendrick! That really ticked Bill & Ford off big time! It's all history now though... Jeff was young & although making a bad decision on how to communicate with Bill about his thoughts & potential plans, ended up making a good career decision..

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                          • #73
                            Bill learned a valuable lesson about business and contracts then. Business is business.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                              Thanks for jogging my memory...lol. You are absolutely right, the Target deal was lined up & about to be finalized..but then again, at that time Bill didn't have Jeff under contract for 1993 & neither did Ford... Bill just assumed Jeff was going to stay on, but one day before the big meeting with Target, Gordon signed with Hendrick. That was in May & you're right again...DuPont wasn't signed until a few weeks later in June. One of Jeffs biggest stipulations was that his crew chief (Ray Evernham) on the Baby Ruth car move with him to cup. Jack Roush who also wanted Jeff flat out refused to bring Ray onboard, but Hendrick was good with that plan. I think it's a really a long story as to why Jeff went behind Bills back.. Andy Graves who met Jeff back in his midget days was his roommate & best friend(and he had gotten a job at Hendrick as a tire specialist)had a big influence on Jeffs decision, plus Ray Evernham went to Hendrick to check out the shop & fell in love when he saw the resources available.. He then goes back to Jeff & basically tells him you're a fool if you don't sign up.
                              Yes, Jeff should have been honest with Bill about his plans, especially before they met with Target. It wasn't until after that meeting that Jeff told Bill in the elevator ride down that he had signed with Hendrick! That really ticked Bill & Ford off big time! It's all history now though... Jeff was young & although making a bad decision on how to communicate with Bill about his thoughts & potential plans, ended up making a good career decision..
                              Yep Jack Roush turned his nose up to Gordon, Gordon turned his nose to Bill Davis and the rest is history. And yes it's an awful blemish. But part of his history.
                              20170902_143041 by Michael Ellison, on Flickr

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